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HDR Video A Reality

HDR Video Demonstration Using Two Canon 5D mark II’s on Vimeo.

Can also be seen on YouTube in HD.



  • http://twitter.com/asidebeside Bram Timmer

    Soviet Montage who? On the radar!

    Very interesting results. Would love to get more information on the post processing end of the footage shot.

  • http://twitter.com/asidebeside Bram Timmer

    Soviet Montage who? On the radar!

    Very interesting results. Would love to get more information on the post processing end of the footage shot.

  • http://enbdavies.ca erich nolan bertussi davies

    now get a 3rd MarkII and shoot behind the scenes~! awesome work and proves once again that Russia is far ahead of the Arts Game and the Future of Prosperity on this planet than it’s Old chum the USA…

  • http://enbdavies.ca erich nolan bertussi davies

    now get a 3rd MarkII and shoot behind the scenes~! awesome work and proves once again that Russia is far ahead of the Arts Game and the Future of Prosperity on this planet than it’s Old chum the USA…

  • alaric

    Ha, yes, we do have a few behind-the-scenes shots, but no video unfortunately. We are based in the US, though. Soviet Montage is just a name taken from an editing technique. See the Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_montage_theory

  • alaric

    Ha, yes, we do have a few behind-the-scenes shots, but no video unfortunately. We are based in the US, though. Soviet Montage is just a name taken from an editing technique. See the Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_montage_theory

  • Me

    Before you post to slashdot, you should be sure you have adequate bandwidth.

  • Me

    Before you post to slashdot, you should be sure you have adequate bandwidth.

  • lcubo

    Excelent!

  • http://--- lcubo

    Excelent!

  • Soeren Dalsgaard

    I’m surprised that you get “overexposed” and “underexposed” wrong in your movie subtitles. Doesn’t come across as very professional.

  • http://iburnaga.blogspot.com Ibu

    Looks absolutely amazing.

  • http://iburnaga.blogspot.com Ibu

    Looks absolutely amazing.

  • Soeren Dalsgaard

    I’m surprised that you get “overexposed” and “underexposed” wrong in your movie subtitles. Doesn’t come across as very professional.

  • http://undo.copypaste.ch Duc

    Really good job guys. I Like it ! Looking forward for your next release. Could you you give us more information on the post processing work ?

  • http://undo.copypaste.ch Duc

    Really good job guys. I Like it ! Looking forward for your next release. Could you you give us more information on the post processing work ?

  • Craig Hansen

    Peering at the demo reel here, I can see that the method needs some work – in particular, the mix between the under- and over-exposed images is allowed to vary from frame to frame for objects that aren’t moving. This causes objects and backgrounds to flicker with movement or panning. Doing a really good job of motion estimation between frames would be key to fixing this. That being said, an impressive first step.

    Erich, perhaps you failed to notice that “Soviet Montage” hails from San Francisco, on the left coast of the USA.

  • Craig Hansen

    Peering at the demo reel here, I can see that the method needs some work – in particular, the mix between the under- and over-exposed images is allowed to vary from frame to frame for objects that aren’t moving. This causes objects and backgrounds to flicker with movement or panning. Doing a really good job of motion estimation between frames would be key to fixing this. That being said, an impressive first step.

    Erich, perhaps you failed to notice that “Soviet Montage” hails from San Francisco, on the left coast of the USA.

  • alaric

    Just noticed that and upped the bandwidth tremendously. Sorry for any delays, folks.

  • alaric

    Just noticed that and upped the bandwidth tremendously. Sorry for any delays, folks.

  • Jonathan

    I think you have the over/under exposure labels switched…

  • Jonathan

    I think you have the over/under exposure labels switched…

  • Swampland Mickey

    Remarkable achievement!
    It looks weird to me but I imagine there will be a solid 10-15 year hdr film rage. I wish you good luck with it. Maybe RED will sponsor a full film? I’m thinking Redbull activity + RED cameras + Soviet Montage technique ftw.
    I was raised with under/over exposed definitions opposite yours.

  • Swampland Mickey

    Remarkable achievement!
    It looks weird to me but I imagine there will be a solid 10-15 year hdr film rage. I wish you good luck with it. Maybe RED will sponsor a full film? I’m thinking Redbull activity + RED cameras + Soviet Montage technique ftw.
    I was raised with under/over exposed definitions opposite yours.

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  • Frank

    HDR is over abused and most of the time makes pictures look like total cartoonish crap. HDR is useful when used very lightly almost to the point where you can’t tell its HDR. Watching the above videos I almost asked my self, what is wrong with their camera ?!

    Its a interesting project, but I hope it doesn’t go further, Soon as Joe Shmo your average consumer gets a hold of it. Youtube is gonna be flooded with trash videos.

    I used to like HDR, then people started to abuse it so widely I just can’t stomach it anymore.

  • Frank

    HDR is over abused and most of the time makes pictures look like total cartoonish crap. HDR is useful when used very lightly almost to the point where you can’t tell its HDR. Watching the above videos I almost asked my self, what is wrong with their camera ?!

    Its a interesting project, but I hope it doesn’t go further, Soon as Joe Shmo your average consumer gets a hold of it. Youtube is gonna be flooded with trash videos.

    I used to like HDR, then people started to abuse it so widely I just can’t stomach it anymore.

  • Shedd

    I noticed that also. They’re probably going to want to fix that….

  • Shedd

    I noticed that also. They’re probably going to want to fix that….

  • Namaruh

    A very interesting experiment, and quite frankly, just wow! This looks as realistic as that Final Fantasy: Advent Children 3D CG movie. In other words, not at all, that’s remarkable! Everybody loves the video game look.

    The best part about this, moreover, is that you don’t have to work to expose the right way anymore in order to achieve a feeling, mood, or cinematic atmosphere anymore!

  • Namaruh

    A very interesting experiment, and quite frankly, just wow! This looks as realistic as that Final Fantasy: Advent Children 3D CG movie. In other words, not at all, that’s remarkable! Everybody loves the video game look.

    The best part about this, moreover, is that you don’t have to work to expose the right way anymore in order to achieve a feeling, mood, or cinematic atmosphere anymore!

  • John

    Hi Michael,

    I must admit I am a little confused by your claim to be the first true HDR video sourced from multiple exposures.
    It seems you guys are not aware of real true HDR Video camera’s that have been around for an expensive price for years?

    Regards

    John

  • John

    Hi Michael,

    I must admit I am a little confused by your claim to be the first true HDR video sourced from multiple exposures.
    It seems you guys are not aware of real true HDR Video camera’s that have been around for an expensive price for years?

    Regards

    John

  • Chris D

    I found this via slashdot, and am amazed… and then realize that it’s taken from the roof of where my friends live. WOW. It’s an extraordinary look.

  • Chris D

    I found this via slashdot, and am amazed… and then realize that it’s taken from the roof of where my friends live. WOW. It’s an extraordinary look.

  • Daniel

    I don’t want to be the negative Nancy, but I think that people are missing a certain point; already, the dynamic range of just about any camera is better than just about ANY display capable of displaying images from said camera; LCD monitor, old CRT, don’t even mention digital projectors, so any gain in dynamic range on the camera side just makes the image display side look LESS contrasty.

    Until the display technology is capable of MORE dynamic range than the camera (which is not going to happen anytime soon), HDR images will look like the ones demonstrated here: very low-contrast, washed-out, and frankly weird looking. I can see it being very useful in something like survey photography, scientific imaging, very technical applications like that. But for aesthetic photography or cinematography, it just looks unnatural.

    Also, there is actually already a complete “High Dynamic Range” system for image capture AND image display; it’s called film and film projectors, and you only need one camera!

    Sidenote because I’m an asshole: make sure your underexposed and overexposed frames are focused to the same distance (i.e. look at the guy on the roof), otherwise it looks like you don’t know what you’re doing.

  • Daniel

    I don’t want to be the negative Nancy, but I think that people are missing a certain point; already, the dynamic range of just about any camera is better than just about ANY display capable of displaying images from said camera; LCD monitor, old CRT, don’t even mention digital projectors, so any gain in dynamic range on the camera side just makes the image display side look LESS contrasty.

    Until the display technology is capable of MORE dynamic range than the camera (which is not going to happen anytime soon), HDR images will look like the ones demonstrated here: very low-contrast, washed-out, and frankly weird looking. I can see it being very useful in something like survey photography, scientific imaging, very technical applications like that. But for aesthetic photography or cinematography, it just looks unnatural.

    Also, there is actually already a complete “High Dynamic Range” system for image capture AND image display; it’s called film and film projectors, and you only need one camera!

    Sidenote because I’m an asshole: make sure your underexposed and overexposed frames are focused to the same distance (i.e. look at the guy on the roof), otherwise it looks like you don’t know what you’re doing.

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  • Chris

    It looks like a great step in the right direction. Keep up the good work. This appears better than most “HDR” images which simply look over-processed instead of realistic. You may want to fix the overexposed/underexposed gaffe, though.

  • Chris

    It looks like a great step in the right direction. Keep up the good work. This appears better than most “HDR” images which simply look over-processed instead of realistic. You may want to fix the overexposed/underexposed gaffe, though.

  • Kimberly

    I don’t like over-cooked HDR.

    HDR is best when at first glance it doesn’t “look HDR” – it just looks like a natural image, or typical surreal photography. I don’t like it when people over-cook them not because they have a specific feel/effect in mind, but because they can.

    Remember the HTML BLINK tag, or MARQUEE? Both were great ideas, and used effectively were great at highlighting certain elements. Then, people who have no artistic sense whatsoever discovered those tags and then every other element was either blinking or side scrolling. It got to the point where browsers dropped support for those tags because effect abuse became so overused.

    Or, for a more current situation, refer to vocoder abuse – auto tune specifically. Thank T-pain for popularizing that atrocity!

    HDR is a wonderful technique, but it is being abused by everyone “because they can.”

  • Kimberly

    I don’t like over-cooked HDR.

    HDR is best when at first glance it doesn’t “look HDR” – it just looks like a natural image, or typical surreal photography. I don’t like it when people over-cook them not because they have a specific feel/effect in mind, but because they can.

    Remember the HTML BLINK tag, or MARQUEE? Both were great ideas, and used effectively were great at highlighting certain elements. Then, people who have no artistic sense whatsoever discovered those tags and then every other element was either blinking or side scrolling. It got to the point where browsers dropped support for those tags because effect abuse became so overused.

    Or, for a more current situation, refer to vocoder abuse – auto tune specifically. Thank T-pain for popularizing that atrocity!

    HDR is a wonderful technique, but it is being abused by everyone “because they can.”

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  • Ken

    This is really cool. I saw it posted on Engadget and was happy to see San Francisco in full HDR motion. :)

    I’m also very curious about the behind the scenes. I’m based in the bay area and can provide a 3rd 5D Mark II (and a 7D) if you need someone to shoot some behind the scenes video for you. :D

  • Ken

    This is really cool. I saw it posted on Engadget and was happy to see San Francisco in full HDR motion. :)

    I’m also very curious about the behind the scenes. I’m based in the bay area and can provide a 3rd 5D Mark II (and a 7D) if you need someone to shoot some behind the scenes video for you. :D

  • James

    Looks like these guys did it 4 months ago with Reds on a beamsplitter.

    http://vimeo.com/12828140

  • James

    Looks like these guys did it 4 months ago with Reds on a beamsplitter.

    http://vimeo.com/12828140

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  • frankly stupid

    yeah, when everyone starts to use something it becomes rubbish. god, i *hate* antibotics and the internet – they’re just so *common*…

    HDR video looks awesome. really great work!

  • frankly stupid

    yeah, when everyone starts to use something it becomes rubbish. god, i *hate* antibotics and the internet – they’re just so *common*…

    HDR video looks awesome. really great work!

  • alaric

    Well, then we did it before that as well: http://vimeo.com/11255484

    Doesn’t matter, though. It’s something we’ve been working on for a long, long time.

  • alaric

    Well, then we did it before that as well: http://vimeo.com/11255484

    Doesn’t matter, though. It’s something we’ve been working on for a long, long time.

  • http://blog.draeath.net draeath

    What’s your point? I think what they did is far more important than how they call it. Don’t be such a snob and just appreciate it :)

  • http://blog.draeath.net draeath

    What’s your point? I think what they did is far more important than how they call it. Don’t be such a snob and just appreciate it :)

  • http://blog.draeath.net draeath

    I think this is basically Dynamic Range compression. It makes visible the ‘information’ that your equipment normally cannot display. Of course, it needs to break “realism” to do this, otherwise there would be no point to begin with (after all, the monitor can’t display reality)

  • http://blog.draeath.net draeath

    I think this is basically Dynamic Range compression. It makes visible the ‘information’ that your equipment normally cannot display. Of course, it needs to break “realism” to do this, otherwise there would be no point to begin with (after all, the monitor can’t display reality)

  • http://arkitekt878.wordpress.com Mike Hardisty

    Looks interesting but probably beyond the scope of the average amatuer…..I’m thinking about costs more than production.

  • http://arkitekt878.wordpress.com Mike Hardisty

    Looks interesting but probably beyond the scope of the average amatuer…..I’m thinking about costs more than production.

  • http://blog.draeath.net draeath

    1. Well, it’s certainly an opinion. I look at it like I look at different painting mediums.

    2. I can’t say this is equivalent to blink or marquee. Blink and marquee are just annoying. You could never look at them and say “wow, art!”

    3. This is nit-picking, but thats modified pitch correction/constraint, not vocoding. Vocoding involves using a voice (or other input) to modulate a carrier (typically a synthesizer or other instrument).

    4. Can you point me to some of this abuse? I can’t say I ever see it unless I go /looking/ for it, or in rare occasions when something like this shows up on a news aggregator like Slashdot.

  • http://blog.draeath.net draeath

    1. Well, it’s certainly an opinion. I look at it like I look at different painting mediums.

    2. I can’t say this is equivalent to blink or marquee. Blink and marquee are just annoying. You could never look at them and say “wow, art!”

    3. This is nit-picking, but thats modified pitch correction/constraint, not vocoding. Vocoding involves using a voice (or other input) to modulate a carrier (typically a synthesizer or other instrument).

    4. Can you point me to some of this abuse? I can’t say I ever see it unless I go /looking/ for it, or in rare occasions when something like this shows up on a news aggregator like Slashdot.

  • http://osfight.de osfight.de

    Cool to see!

  • http://osfight.de osfight.de

    Cool to see!

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  • http://www.thrillscience.com/ Robert Swirsky (Thrill Science

    How did you synchronize/genlock the two cameras?

  • http://www.thrillscience.com/ Robert Swirsky (Thrill Science, Inc)

    How did you synchronize/genlock the two cameras?

  • strawman

    frankly stupid :
    yeah, when everyone starts to use something it becomes rubbish.

    Classic strawman argument :)

  • strawman

    frankly stupid :
    yeah, when everyone starts to use something it becomes rubbish.

    Classic strawman argument :)

  • Nikos

    Stunning demo!
    As others commented here we can be sure that this will create a wave of HDR videos, good or bad but what the heck, I love HDR. I particularly enjoyed the “portrait” than the “landscape” part.

  • Nikos

    Stunning demo!
    As others commented here we can be sure that this will create a wave of HDR videos, good or bad but what the heck, I love HDR. I particularly enjoyed the “portrait” than the “landscape” part.

  • Floyd Dameron

    Thanks to the magic of HDR, now almost anyone can look like a pumpkin.

  • Floyd Dameron

    Thanks to the magic of HDR, now almost anyone can look like a pumpkin.

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  • Mack

    Wow.

  • Mack

    Wow.

  • Benny Butler

    Wow, I guess Erich Noal Bertussi Davies can now say “Proves once again that the USA is far ahead of the Arts Game and the Future of Prosperity on this planet than it’s Old chum Russia”

    He could say that, but I bet he won’t.

    Personally, I think it’s cool, no matter what country it came from. Good work.

  • Benny Butler

    Wow, I guess Erich Noal Bertussi Davies can now say “Proves once again that the USA is far ahead of the Arts Game and the Future of Prosperity on this planet than it’s Old chum Russia”

    He could say that, but I bet he won’t.

    Personally, I think it’s cool, no matter what country it came from. Good work.

  • Wes

    Nice work! Do you have a pic of the equipment all set up?

  • Wes

    Nice work! Do you have a pic of the equipment all set up?

  • http://sparebrainsgames.com Wayne

    I would love to see some photos of the actual camera rig. I think I have it accurately pictured in my mind, but I’m not certain.

    And I think the comments are wrong about the over/under-exposed labels being reversed. You need to think about slide film, not negative film, which is what movies are. I could be mis-remembering, it’s been 4 years since I processed and printed color film.

  • http://sparebrainsgames.com Wayne

    I would love to see some photos of the actual camera rig. I think I have it accurately pictured in my mind, but I’m not certain.

    And I think the comments are wrong about the over/under-exposed labels being reversed. You need to think about slide film, not negative film, which is what movies are. I could be mis-remembering, it’s been 4 years since I processed and printed color film.

  • http://www.patrickbowman.com/ Los Angeles Photographer Patri

    Haters are gonna hate lol. I think it’s a great accomplishment and it looks amazing. Can’t wait to see more from you guys!

  • http://www.patrickbowman.com/ Los Angeles Photographer Patrick Bowman

    Haters are gonna hate lol. I think it’s a great accomplishment and it looks amazing. Can’t wait to see more from you guys!

  • Josh

    Easily as iconic as the 300 or Sin City look. Get your film out there! It is going to spark a slew of DPs playing catchup. Great works guys.

  • Josh

    Easily as iconic as the 300 or Sin City look. Get your film out there! It is going to spark a slew of DPs playing catchup. Great works guys.

  • Diegork

    It would be great to see some photos of how you built the mount and the beam splitter.

    Thanks and congrats, great images!

  • Diegork

    It would be great to see some photos of how you built the mount and the beam splitter.

    Thanks and congrats, great images!

  • JOOLEEO

    Nice Work!, how you do interlace the 2 videos? multiply effect or something like that? 50% each?

    tks,

  • JOOLEEO

    Nice Work!, how you do interlace the 2 videos? multiply effect or something like that? 50% each?

    tks,

  • Mike

    I couldn’t agree more.

    The video of the man in HDR looks awful. I realize that these are tests, but there’s enough bad HDR out in the world already.

    That said, when they applied the more realistic affect, it looked quite nice.

  • Mike

    I couldn’t agree more.

    The video of the man in HDR looks awful. I realize that these are tests, but there’s enough bad HDR out in the world already.

    That said, when they applied the more realistic affect, it looked quite nice.

  • Walden Barney

    Fascinating…. I enjoyed the demo video. It would be interesting to see you take it a step further yet by doing a full stereoscopic 3D version of this! (I guess that would entail using 4 5D Mk II’s, right?) I’d love to see something like that, and view it on a really big screen! Let us all know if you get around to playing with something like that… and keep up the good work! …pay no attention to the naysayers that alwasys seem to pop up and want to throw water on the party… they’ve been doing that for most every new thing you can name… such as the HDSLRS (like the 5D Mk II…) but while they are griping and claiming that it’s all lame and pointless, countless people around them are pressing forward & making use of all of these new tools to do a lot of really cool things… no doubt the technique you are working on will end up being like that.

  • Walden Barney

    Fascinating…. I enjoyed the demo video. It would be interesting to see you take it a step further yet by doing a full stereoscopic 3D version of this! (I guess that would entail using 4 5D Mk II’s, right?) I’d love to see something like that, and view it on a really big screen! Let us all know if you get around to playing with something like that… and keep up the good work! …pay no attention to the naysayers that alwasys seem to pop up and want to throw water on the party… they’ve been doing that for most every new thing you can name… such as the HDSLRS (like the 5D Mk II…) but while they are griping and claiming that it’s all lame and pointless, countless people around them are pressing forward & making use of all of these new tools to do a lot of really cool things… no doubt the technique you are working on will end up being like that.

  • alaric

    Updated. To be honest, we’ve been working hard on an actual film, and decided to toss this up last minute…the interest was overwhelming.

  • alaric

    Updated. To be honest, we’ve been working hard on an actual film, and decided to toss this up last minute…the interest was overwhelming.

  • http://www.bayareavr.com Eli Poblitz

    Great work! Looking forward to seeing more (and hopefully some of the behind the scenes series too :)

  • http://www.bayareavr.com Eli Poblitz

    Great work! Looking forward to seeing more (and hopefully some of the behind the scenes series too :)

  • http://explained.co apache

    I want to know more about the beam splitter that was used.

  • http://explained.co apache

    I want to know more about the beam splitter that was used.

  • Andy

    I am curious if you could create an effect like this by using one camera and duplicating the clips then manipulating the exposures in final cut, then utilizing composite mode to merge the clips. Anybody know how that could work or have tips…?

  • Andy

    I am curious if you could create an effect like this by using one camera and duplicating the clips then manipulating the exposures in final cut, then utilizing composite mode to merge the clips. Anybody know how that could work or have tips…?

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  • http://www.gabiru.tv gabriel

    Hi mates. Did you use some color correction after the shooting and render?

  • http://www.gabiru.tv gabriel

    Hi mates. Did you use some color correction after the shooting and render?

  • Padua

    Awesome next generation Video technology !!!
    how great it would if 3D is combined with HDR …
    ……to create 3D HDR video

    Great work Team Soviet Montage

  • Padua

    Awesome next generation Video technology !!!
    how great it would if 3D is combined with HDR …
    ……to create 3D HDR video

    Great work Team Soviet Montage

  • tank

    can you tell me how you positioned the cameras so they were not in the shot? i assume you shot them both at the same time right? i’m having a brain fart figuring out how you did it.

  • tank

    can you tell me how you positioned the cameras so they were not in the shot? i assume you shot them both at the same time right? i’m having a brain fart figuring out how you did it.

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  • Guy McLoughlin

    I’m guessing that this could be done with a 3D camera rig ( for 2 DSLRs ) and processed using the HDR capability of PhotoShop ( which can process video as well as stills )

  • Guy McLoughlin

    I’m guessing that this could be done with a 3D camera rig ( for 2 DSLRs ) and processed using the HDR capability of PhotoShop ( which can process video as well as stills )

  • dufus

    Umm no.. he meant overuse makes it rubbish. But that’s no reason not to develop it either.

  • dufus

    Umm no.. he meant overuse makes it rubbish. But that’s no reason not to develop it either.

  • dufus

    What is real?

  • dufus

    What is real?

  • Namaruh

    The main difference between the internet and antibiotics and this technique proposed here is that the internet and antibiotics are mostly good. HDR is mostly used in a tasteless way. I don’t need to point it out, any look through flickr for the HDR tag will serve the purpose.

  • Namaruh

    The main difference between the internet and antibiotics and this technique proposed here is that the internet and antibiotics are mostly good. HDR is mostly used in a tasteless way. I don’t need to point it out, any look through flickr for the HDR tag will serve the purpose.

  • Namaruh

    So the point of this is to break realism? I mean, I see the potential in being able to work with additional data for flexible post-processing, as well as being able to maintain a bit more detail in shadows if it really is what you need. Dynamic Range Compression, as you called it (we all love big technical words don’t we?) certainly shows how you’re able to capture data, but is this the intended purpose? Does one actually want to get rid of shadows and highlights, pushing everything into muddy mid-tones? If that is the intended final purpose, it frankly just looks like an amateur’s lack of decision at the time of exposure.

    That said, I’m sure this would look great for the next Transformers movie. Looking forward to it.

  • Namaruh

    So the point of this is to break realism? I mean, I see the potential in being able to work with additional data for flexible post-processing, as well as being able to maintain a bit more detail in shadows if it really is what you need. Dynamic Range Compression, as you called it (we all love big technical words don’t we?) certainly shows how you’re able to capture data, but is this the intended purpose? Does one actually want to get rid of shadows and highlights, pushing everything into muddy mid-tones? If that is the intended final purpose, it frankly just looks like an amateur’s lack of decision at the time of exposure.

    That said, I’m sure this would look great for the next Transformers movie. Looking forward to it.

  • Namaruh

    They did it more tastefully.

  • Namaruh

    They did it more tastefully.

  • http://www.norcalphotostudio.com Riccardo Suriano

    Amazing! Finally someone did it!!!
    I would love to collaborate with you in the future!
    Hit me up anytime
    and congratulations again u guys have done it!

  • http://www.norcalphotostudio.com Riccardo Suriano

    Amazing! Finally someone did it!!!
    I would love to collaborate with you in the future!
    Hit me up anytime
    and congratulations again u guys have done it!

  • http://synapticlight.com/ Phillip Gibb

    wow, amazing.
    and inspirational.What did you use to line up the footage?

  • http://synapticlight.com/ Phillip Gibb

    wow, amazing.
    and inspirational.What did you use to line up the footage?

  • Namaruh

    It wouldn’t, not with a 5D Mark II, at least. A contrast curve is applied to the footage in-camera, and all additional exposure data discarded before the file is saved. By doing what you mentioned, you either end up with just a low contrast image, or one with a ton of noise/banding, as if you were editing JPEG images. It’s a single exposure at the end of the day unless you use a method like this one.

  • Namaruh

    It wouldn’t, not with a 5D Mark II, at least. A contrast curve is applied to the footage in-camera, and all additional exposure data discarded before the file is saved. By doing what you mentioned, you either end up with just a low contrast image, or one with a ton of noise/banding, as if you were editing JPEG images. It’s a single exposure at the end of the day unless you use a method like this one.

  • Paul

    Oh look, the painful people from Slashdot have arrived. An unpleasant reminder of why I quit reading the comments on that site.

    Anyway, I clicked around but you don’t seem to have anything about your setup. I presume you used a beamsplitter?

  • Paul

    Oh look, the painful people from Slashdot have arrived. An unpleasant reminder of why I quit reading the comments on that site.

    Anyway, I clicked around but you don’t seem to have anything about your setup. I presume you used a beamsplitter?

  • http://www.crookedpathfilms.com Richard Allen Crook

    And you did not.

  • http://www.crookedpathfilms.com Richard Allen Crook

    And you did not.

  • Jack Londan

    Great job! Keep up the good work…

    BTW, WIKIPEDIA credits you guy with what appears to be the 1st HDR VIDEO footage:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_dynamic_range_imaging

    FROM WIKIPEDIA:

    “Until recently, there were no “pure” examples of HDR based cinematography, since the effects were most commonly used during composited sequences in films. However, with the advent of low cost consumer digital cameras, many amateurs began posting tone-mapped HDR time-lapse videos on the Internet. On September 9, 2010, an independent production company called Soviet Montage released some of the first clips of HDR video shot at 24 frames per second.[25] Their footage was created by combining video captured from two Canon 5d Mark II’s.”

    Jack

  • Jack Londan

    Great job! Keep up the good work…

    BTW, WIKIPEDIA credits you guy with what appears to be the 1st HDR VIDEO footage:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_dynamic_range_imaging

    FROM WIKIPEDIA:

    “Until recently, there were no “pure” examples of HDR based cinematography, since the effects were most commonly used during composited sequences in films. However, with the advent of low cost consumer digital cameras, many amateurs began posting tone-mapped HDR time-lapse videos on the Internet. On September 9, 2010, an independent production company called Soviet Montage released some of the first clips of HDR video shot at 24 frames per second.[25] Their footage was created by combining video captured from two Canon 5d Mark II’s.”

    Jack

  • NON JUDGEMENTAL

    SUCH A NIT PICKER

  • NON JUDGEMENTAL

    SUCH A NIT PICKER

  • bern

    Amazing video!
    I would like to know the camera position of those 2 cameras.
    How to set them up?

  • bern

    Amazing video!
    I would like to know the camera position of those 2 cameras.
    How to set them up?

  • http://rahulfow.blog.com rahulfow

    this is really amazing! if would be more good if supported with behind the scenes and making! :D

  • http://rahulfow.blog.com rahulfow

    this is really amazing! if would be more good if supported with behind the scenes and making! :D

  • Veve

    Namaruh :
    The main difference between the internet and antibiotics and this technique proposed here is that the internet and antibiotics are mostly good. HDR is mostly used in a tasteless way. I don’t need to point it out, any look through flickr for the HDR tag will serve the purpose.

    The Internet is the epitome of tasteless. And antibiotics are extremely overused. Your point being?

  • Veve

    Namaruh :
    The main difference between the internet and antibiotics and this technique proposed here is that the internet and antibiotics are mostly good. HDR is mostly used in a tasteless way. I don’t need to point it out, any look through flickr for the HDR tag will serve the purpose.

    The Internet is the epitome of tasteless. And antibiotics are extremely overused. Your point being?

  • Tina

    This is amazing! HDR has been done for quite sometime with still photography, but you guys have really found something here. I’m not sure if it’s been done before, but congratulations! I can’t wait to see a movie shot like this!

  • Tina

    This is amazing! HDR has been done for quite sometime with still photography, but you guys have really found something here. I’m not sure if it’s been done before, but congratulations! I can’t wait to see a movie shot like this!

  • http://nick.myggen.com/ Nick

    Interesting look. I hope you guys figure out the flicker issue.

  • http://nick.myggen.com/ Nick

    Interesting look. I hope you guys figure out the flicker issue.

  • Singh

    what would be the difference if you just use only one camera and change the exposures and then do the other procedures you did to make it HDR?

  • Singh

    what would be the difference if you just use only one camera and change the exposures and then do the other procedures you did to make it HDR?

  • Dean Blackketter

    Does this imply that with a firmware update to the camera this could be done natively, without a beam-splitter and multiple cameras?

    Or is there some special optical effect from having different apertures on each camera?

  • Dean Blackketter

    Does this imply that with a firmware update to the camera this could be done natively, without a beam-splitter and multiple cameras?

    Or is there some special optical effect from having different apertures on each camera?

  • http://www.techalps.com/technology/at-last-hdr-comes-to-video.html At Last, HDR Comes to Video? | Tech Alps

    [...] a great debate going on in the comments of their site as to the merits of the technique, but we’ll leave you to make up your own mind [...]

  • CHRS

    Yea I really want to see the rig.

  • CHRS

    Yea I really want to see the rig.

  • http://fotux.es/video-en-hdr-con-dos-camaras-reflex/ Video en HDR con dos cámaras reflex | FoTux.es

    [...] El vídeo a sido creado por Soviet Montage Productions [...]

  • Matthew

    It seems everyone here likes the subtle effect you have produced, the almost-can’t-tell level of application of the HDR effect. It is generally much better liked than the radical cartoonish bs that is all too common in HDR stills. The best advantage to me is the incredible detail captured on the highs and lows, and the ability to shoot in new lighting situations.

    Also, there was a comment about multiple focus points I think. It seems then that you must not be shooting through one lense as has been speculated?

  • Matthew

    It seems everyone here likes the subtle effect you have produced, the almost-can’t-tell level of application of the HDR effect. It is generally much better liked than the radical cartoonish bs that is all too common in HDR stills. The best advantage to me is the incredible detail captured on the highs and lows, and the ability to shoot in new lighting situations.

    Also, there was a comment about multiple focus points I think. It seems then that you must not be shooting through one lense as has been speculated?

  • onagrus

    onagrus :
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    How about using two cameras, under 90 degree angle, with a semitransparent mirror as a splitter? Something like this:
    Scene->–>–>–- – -> Camera 1
    |
    |
    v
    Camera 2
    Here the represents the semitransparent mirror.

    Ok, the site wont let me put lots of spaces, but the vertical beam should be in line with the semitransparent mirror like so:

    –>
    |
    v

  • onagrus

    onagrus :
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    How about using two cameras, under 90 degree angle, with a semitransparent mirror as a splitter? Something like this:
    Scene->–>–>–\- – -> Camera 1
    |
    |
    v
    Camera 2
    Here the \ represents the semitransparent mirror.

    Ok, the site wont let me put lots of spaces, but the vertical beam should be in line with the semitransparent mirror like so:

    -\->
    |
    v

  • http://www.dslrtoolbox.net/hd-video/hdr-video-with-two-5d-mkii/ HDR Video shot with two Canon 5D MkII DSLRs | DSLR Toolbox

    [...] out this sweet video made by San Francisco based Soviet Montage using two Canon EOS 5D Mark II DSLRs. Some people like the look of HDR (High Dynamic Range) photos [...]

  • http://www.brownanchor.com/towtheline nicholas s.

    you guys are fucking awesome. seriously great.

  • http://www.brownanchor.com/towtheline nicholas s.

    you guys are fucking awesome. seriously great.

  • http://durere.wordpress.com/2010/09/17/varza-de-vineri-pt-31/ varza de vineri, pt. 31. « despre muzică, tehnologie şi oameni.

    [...] Nice HDR. [...]

  • Namaruh

    Indeed it is full of exhibitions of tastelessness, created by people. Putting such a tool in the hands of the wrong people (or right, depending on your stance on the matter), could help make such displays of tastelessness mainstream.

  • Namaruh

    Indeed it is full of exhibitions of tastelessness, created by people. Putting such a tool in the hands of the wrong people (or right, depending on your stance on the matter), could help make such displays of tastelessness mainstream.

  • Namaruh

    No. If you were to do this, you’d require your subject to be still, and its motion repeatable verbatim, so that you’d be able to record the entire sequence twice, one after the other.

    If they’re using a single lens and two cameras, the optical aperture is the same for both streams of footage.

    If they’re using 2 separate cameras with individual lenses, they should be using the same aperture (for depth of field to be equal in both exposures) and instead adjust the camera’s ISO sensitivity. If the apertures don’t match, DOF won’t be the same, and additional problems will be introduced, unless they are accounted for.

  • Namaruh

    No. If you were to do this, you’d require your subject to be still, and its motion repeatable verbatim, so that you’d be able to record the entire sequence twice, one after the other.

    If they’re using a single lens and two cameras, the optical aperture is the same for both streams of footage.

    If they’re using 2 separate cameras with individual lenses, they should be using the same aperture (for depth of field to be equal in both exposures) and instead adjust the camera’s ISO sensitivity. If the apertures don’t match, DOF won’t be the same, and additional problems will be introduced, unless they are accounted for.

  • Mark Obrien

    Yes, this is serious. You guys know something more. Maybe we will see cameras with dual lenses sometime in the future. Wonder how those 3d cameras will go too. Looking forward to your upcoming release, can’t wait :-)

  • Mark Obrien

    Yes, this is serious. You guys know something more. Maybe we will see cameras with dual lenses sometime in the future. Wonder how those 3d cameras will go too. Looking forward to your upcoming release, can’t wait :-)

  • E

    That’s a great effect you accomplished there. Would you consider doing a walk-around video of the rig you used to create this piece?

    Thanks in advance, nicely done.

    e

  • E

    That’s a great effect you accomplished there. Would you consider doing a walk-around video of the rig you used to create this piece?

    Thanks in advance, nicely done.

    e

  • Uzba

    the same way as on this video i guess: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX7ybS7fnow

  • Uzba

    the same way as on this video i guess: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX7ybS7fnow

  • http://cloudyproject.com MC

    Man, lotsa negativity round here – I thought it was pretty cool. All of your uses of the technique have potential applications, whether subtle or more extreme – one more brush in the palette (well, several more).

    I haven’t seen anything remotely like HDR used in any feature films or TV shows I’ve seen, but I could see it being a useful look. The fact that it’s been “overdone” is probably pretty meaningless to the average consumer.

    And YouTube is chock full of “1 camera HDR” clips – some of them look kinda cool, and I could definitely see using even that look (maybe mixed with some median followed by sharpening) for a sort of posterized – painted look.

    Sure, if this style takes off it could become overused and cliche; that doesn’t mean it’s “bad” when it’s a new tool, and who knows what styles will use bits of this or evolve from it? People though those early scifi lens flares were pretty awesome… for a while.

  • http://cloudyproject.com MC

    Man, lotsa negativity round here – I thought it was pretty cool. All of your uses of the technique have potential applications, whether subtle or more extreme – one more brush in the palette (well, several more).

    I haven’t seen anything remotely like HDR used in any feature films or TV shows I’ve seen, but I could see it being a useful look. The fact that it’s been “overdone” is probably pretty meaningless to the average consumer.

    And YouTube is chock full of “1 camera HDR” clips – some of them look kinda cool, and I could definitely see using even that look (maybe mixed with some median followed by sharpening) for a sort of posterized – painted look.

    Sure, if this style takes off it could become overused and cliche; that doesn’t mean it’s “bad” when it’s a new tool, and who knows what styles will use bits of this or evolve from it? People though those early scifi lens flares were pretty awesome… for a while.

  • Cale

    Could a similar effect be done with one camera? As in the fact that you used two, was that out of necessity or was it just easier that way?

    I know this question may seem obvious, but hey you never know.

  • Cale

    Could a similar effect be done with one camera? As in the fact that you used two, was that out of necessity or was it just easier that way?

    I know this question may seem obvious, but hey you never know.

  • http://www.andresripoll.com Andres
  • http://www.andresripoll.com Andres
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  • Edvin

    What about a 3x 5d mirror rig, with the 5ds standing vertical. Then you will get a 1:69 aspect ratio with a resolution of 3x HD. Then the video will have more detail and also a lot more bit rate. Sensor size will be bigger (72mmx36mm) and aspect flat like IMAX. Focus will be hard and also perspective when changing lenses. But the aligning of the cameras are not that hard.

    Is this method going to work? Anybody want to try it out?

  • Edvin

    What about a 3x 5d mirror rig, with the 5ds standing vertical. Then you will get a 1:69 aspect ratio with a resolution of 3x HD. Then the video will have more detail and also a lot more bit rate. Sensor size will be bigger (72mmx36mm) and aspect flat like IMAX. Focus will be hard and also perspective when changing lenses. But the aligning of the cameras are not that hard.

    Is this method going to work? Anybody want to try it out?

  • Edvin

    The mirror will help the cameras to stand close to each other; then we will get the possibility to take close focus.

    I’m thinking of a rig like this. Two 5ds on each side on top, pointing vertically down into a mirror. And strait forward horizontally, strait though the transparent side of the mirror, one 5d right in between the framing of the other two cameras. Then the angles. The two 5ds on top need to have an angle to each side. Because ex. 50mm does have a 27 degree angle of view vertically when laid on the side. Therefore we need to correct the to 5d so we don’t get a picture overlapping situation.

  • Edvin

    The mirror will help the cameras to stand close to each other; then we will get the possibility to take close focus.

    I’m thinking of a rig like this. Two 5ds on each side on top, pointing vertically down into a mirror. And strait forward horizontally, strait though the transparent side of the mirror, one 5d right in between the framing of the other two cameras. Then the angles. The two 5ds on top need to have an angle to each side. Because ex. 50mm does have a 27 degree angle of view vertically when laid on the side. Therefore we need to correct the to 5d so we don’t get a picture overlapping situation.

  • Van Thieu

    Do you think you can provide me information on how you achieved the HDR video effect, including equipments and software? I would also like to experiment with HDR cinematography using your practices. Thanks!

  • Van Thieu

    Do you think you can provide me information on how you achieved the HDR video effect, including equipments and software? I would also like to experiment with HDR cinematography using your practices. Thanks!

  • http://iuveaene.wordpress.com/2010/10/01/la-pesadilla-del-hdr/ La pesadilla del HDR « i.uve.a.ene

    [...] Quizá yo sea el bicho raro y sea el resto del mundo quien tenga razón; pero, sinceramente, me importa un bledo. Lo peor de todo esto es que, cuando parecía que la fiebre del HDR en la fotografía había terminado. Ahora llega el HDR al vídeo. [...]

  • Anonymous

    Been working on the site, specifically upgrading the comments section.

  • Christina

    love it!

  • William

    because one camera cant take 2 different simultaneous exposures
    you could shoot it with one, but it would be a choppy video with a slight delay in motion

  • Geophrian

    That’s how they do 3D for the big budget films so it’d definitely have potential.

  • Kurathans

    This is just sickening! Shame on you >:-(

  • http://seo-it-right.co.uk/ google seo

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  • Anonymous

    Delete.

  • http://vision.ai.uiuc.edu/~wanghc Hongcheng

    We had an HDR video system in early 2000. The system is composed of three cameras and beam splitters. Here are the references of implementation and algorihtms:
    http://vision.ai.uiuc.edu/~wanghc/papers/OMNIVIS05_Hongcheng_3192.pdf
    http://vision.ai.uiuc.edu/~wanghc/research/editing.html
    http://vision.ai.uiuc.edu/?p=299

  • http://mglinearart.wordpress.com/2011/05/13/hdr-high-dynamic-range-photos/ HDR – High Dynamic Range Photos « MG Linear Art

    [...] EOS 5D’s – then the next level is video – Soviet Montage have put together a nice little video that shows how capable the 5D is for more than photography. Clouds produce fantastic effects in [...]

  • Jeo Nicolas

    AMAAAZING ! It looks like a video game ! So poetic … WAW !
    They should make a movie, or a short-movie, it will be fantastic !
    If a movie exists yet, I HAVE TO watch it !

    (A comment by a french guy ;) !)

  • Cleatsandcode

    FYI some guy has used a still from this video to sell a crappy iOS app called Flare. Great work though on the vid, I love it.

  • Anonymous

    Ha ha that was us :P
    The app can’t compete with two DSLR’s and a beam splitter, but it’s the best that can be done on an iPhone ;)

  • Juanpabloaguimar

    Hi, do you offer courses or how can one learn the hdr video technique?
    best
    JP

  • Anonymous

    We do not currently, as we could not find a way to make it sustainable. However, we will keep it in mind.

  • Sam-jacob

    Essentially, you can create the same latitude as film using this HDR method…

    But if you’re using 2 cameras, you need to fix your exposures, versus being 3 stops + & -, you need 1 stop each way.

    I prefer using 3 cameras and a beam-splitter. the 3rd camera being another stop higher (yes higher is preferably better, you need to save those highlights).

    And the best color style to use is a plugin called “Technicolor Cinestyle”.

    Let me know if you try it.

    imsamjacob@gmail.com

  • Mcworldnet

    Not sure if any one has mentioned this…. but now it’s time to employ  3 CCD video technology,  i.e., using a prism with three CMOS sensors, each streaming a different exposure  to 3 ssd cards, its all quite doable at a cheap price and should provide the capability to do HDR video in an under $1000 camcorder ….

  • aaron

    Most HDR out there (like this) looks like dogshit.  There is a proper way to do it in subtle ways that avoids using some cheesy, universal filter and it involves effort and hand-crafting the image with bracket and blending techniques.  (FYI, bracket and blend techniques are the birthplace of HDR)  HDR as we see it today, is mostly a cheap fad bred by the bad habits enabled to us by automated technologies that have no semblance with photography and appreciation of light, dark, and everything in between.  Photography implies just like any other artform, that it is not just
    what you can see, it is also what you cannot see, that counts.  HDR is
    more often than not, the anti-thesis of this.  The HDR fad rarely expresses a shred of integrity compared to photographic accuracy and integrity.  

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